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I'm looking for info/drawings/photos of the Hudswell Clarke diesel loco 'Crewe' built for the eighteen inch system at Crewe works and then later used at Horwich (renamed ZM9). I have the 'Crewe works narrow gauge system' book which has a couple of photos but I'm struggling to find any views of the rear end or details of the cab interior. I'm planning a 1:12 scale model which will be gauge convertible between 32mm and 45mm. It was built in 1930 builders works no. D563 and scrapped around 1957.
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No I hadn't - thanks very much - perhaps I'll email Mike and see if he got any further with the drawings! Do you have any photos showing the cab interior of the 2' version? the overall dimensions aren't too far off the Muir Hill locos used at Ravenglass which were 7'6" high - so maybe a 15" version would work?
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Thanks for posting the link to the older thread Steve, the drawing is still at the same state as it was in my last post on that thread Jez, I would be happy to send you the drawings that I have done up to this point.
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| michael wrote: | | Thanks for posting the link to the older thread Steve, the drawing is still at the same state as it was in my last post on that thread Jez, I would be happy to send you the drawings that I have done up to this point. |
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| Jez kirkwood wrote: | | Do you have any photos showing the cab interior of the 2' version? |
Struggling to think of one which shows the cab interior from any gauge, it's not an angle that the factory generally took and most photos that have been published are the original works ones.
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Anyone in the vicinity of Leeds? There is a similar but much larger gauge loco in the industrial museum. Last time I was there it was inside the main railway building.
http://www.leeds.gov.uk/armleyMills/
There's nothing that I can find on the web site though.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| Steve Bennett wrote: | | Jez kirkwood wrote: | | Do you have any photos showing the cab interior of the 2' version? |
Struggling to think of one which shows the cab interior from any gauge, it's not an angle that the factory generally took and most photos that have been published are the original works ones. |
Erm - if nobody knows then who could gainsay the no doubt excellent model that you are clearly going to produce - build and be damned!
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| Quote: | Erm - if nobody knows then who could gainsay the no doubt excellent model that you are clearly going to produce - build and be damned!
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Until you publish or exhibit it 
Don't glue the interior in too well...........so it can be changed when the only person in the world that knows what the inside looks like sees your efforts.
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Junin, now back in Leeds, is absolutely huge, 32tons according to a contemporary article which includes a an internal cab view, which must have been taken with a superwide lens - or else multiple pictures merged. You are welcome to a copy it.
One of the contemporary diesels used in the Queensland sugar cane railways would probably be something rather closer if anyone has ever poked a camera inside the cab.
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It's not Junin I was thinking of. I do know the difference Andrew. Yes, Junin is huge and if I'd meant that I would have said so. The loco I mean is the ex P W Spencer quarry loco of a very odd gauge. Junin wasn't there when I visited.
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How embarrassing! What is even worse is that I was there 2 years ago and took 8 pictures of it, including 2 in the cab! 2'-11" was the gauge, broader than Junin, but much more the size of the Crewe engine; however the transmission is with chains rather than rods, and the gearbox which is very prominent on D571 wouldn't be there on the Crewe loco.
D558 at Apedale looks quote similar, but I have no idea what the state of the cab interior is like.
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| The book "LMS Diesels Locomotives and Railcars" by E.V. Richards states that the wheelbase was three feet and the wheels one foot three and a half inches. There is also a nice photo of the loco at Horwich works with "WREN" standing behind it. |
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"Modern Traction for Industrial and Agricultural Railways", adds overall width 2'-10-1/2" and minimum curve 16'-6", max speed 3-1/2 mph
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Just looked through my records and found these details from the NGRS file
Gauge 1'-6"
Built December 1930
Works No D563
Engine McLaren No 372
Cylinders (2) 5" Diameter
Overall length 8'-2"
Overall Width 3'-0"
Height of engine casing 5'-0"
Height of buffers 1'-0"
Rail clearance 3"
Wheelbase 3'-0"
Wheel Diameter 1'-4"
Weight in working order 3t 3cwt
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