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satori 'boxer Old Timer

 
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: Looking for prototype photos one gauge crossing another. |
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Layout planning, two gauges (both narrow). The idea so far includes a narrow gauge mine/quarry/[other] layout (Gn15) and a larger (but still narrow) gauge line taking away a finished/processed product. Still sketchy on that!
What I would like is a crossing, between about 60 and 90 degrees. I'm intending to hand build it, and would like to see some prototypical examples before finalising the design of it. Has anyone got any photos, or links they can pass on to show something like this?
Thanks for any help you can give. _________________ Justin C, by the sea. |
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Prof Klyzlr GnatterBox Centurion Old Timer

 
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Jez kirkwood GnatterBox Centurion Seasoned Campaigner

 
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a pic of one of the crossings at Perrygrove which is constucted from both rail and angle iron.
Jez _________________ Stout Mackintosh!!! |
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satori 'boxer Old Timer

 
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| Prof Klyzlr wrote: | Dear Justin,
a quick Google provided these...
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For what did you Google? I find search criteria for images can often lead to the unexpected.
Thank you very much for the time taken to find these, I shall try Googling again, and refine my search criteria.
I especially like this one. Very clear.
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In all images posted both gauges appear to be of the same size rails. On my layout I intend one of the lines to be of much lighter rail than the heavy, larger gauge.
Perhaps the prototypical way of modeling this would be to have the lighter rail transition to heavier rail before the crossing, and then back after it to avoid the risk of damage by the heavier equipment. Any thoughts on this?
Thank you again for your reply. _________________ Justin C, by the sea. |
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satori 'boxer Old Timer

 
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| satori wrote: |
In all images posted both gauges appear to be of the same size rails. On my layout I intend one of the lines to be of much lighter rail than the heavy, larger gauge.
Perhaps the prototypical way of modeling this would be to have the lighter rail transition to heavier rail before the crossing, and then back after it to avoid the risk of damage by the heavier equipment. Any thoughts on this?
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I've just found this:
I like very much how this looks. _________________ Justin C, by the sea. |
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Chris Stockdale Millegniumer Old Timer Friend of Gn15.info

  
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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For the bookshelf, 'cos it has this and many other useful pics, try:
Industrial Narrow Gauge stock and Trackwork, by Sidney Leleux.
From Plateway Press and only £8.95 as it is softback. Every industrial narrow gauger should have one
cheers _________________ Stockers |
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More_Cats_Than_Sense Millegniumer Old Timer Friend of Gn15.info

  
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| satori wrote: |
In all images posted both gauges appear to be of the same size rails. On my layout I intend one of the lines to be of much lighter rail than the heavy, larger gauge.
Perhaps the prototypical way of modeling this would be to have the lighter rail transition to heavier rail before the crossing, and then back after it to avoid the risk of damage by the heavier equipment. Any thoughts on this?
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As far as I am aware, the crossing would have been built using the heavier of the two sections of rails used. This transition might have taken place within a couple of feet of the crossing, or twenty or so feet away depending upon the immediate surroundings. _________________ Barry Weston
If at first you don't succeed, use a bigger hammer.
The only thing that keeps me sane, is the friendship I share with my collection of singing potatoes....
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Jon Randall Millegniumer Old Timer Friend of Gn15.info

  
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Stockers, ING Stock & Trackwork has some wonderful examples. _________________ Jon Randall
Gno dear, I'm gnot building another layout.
Ok just one more for luck.....
Size is gnot the important issue here |
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Oztrainz Demi-Millegniumer Old Timer

 
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Prof Klyzlr GnatterBox Centurion Old Timer

 
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Justin,
as with any prototype, there's at least 3 different ways to peel a feline...
However, in broad-brush terms...
- where the "era" the crossing was built in = OLD,
and the "broadgauge" existed first,
then the "narrow gauge" way well have laid whatever (lighter) rail was available thru the crossing. Packing up under the lighter rail is not unknown, and can be emulated in prototype.
The BG wouldn't care, as long as the "light rails" didn't spring up and damage or derail their equipment during normal operations...
- where the "era" = MODERN
almost irrespective of "who was there first",
the crossing will probably be pre-assembled offsite,
using a single common weight of rail,
(IE probably matching the heavier of the 2 options presented by the railroads in question)
with the "lighter rail" railroad having to do "rail height matching" away from the crossing itself.
- where "era" = ????
and "NarrowGauge came first",
the Broadgauge would usually take(sieze?) responsibility for building the crossing to <their> track standards,
(bearing in mind their rollingstock and locos were probably heavier, moving faster, and thus required more critical/capable track specs),
would most probably use <their> (assumed heavier) rail to build both routes of the crossing,
and then force the NG to "rail height match" into the existing NG route some distance away from the crossing proper... _________________ Happy Modelling,
Aim to Improve,
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satori 'boxer Old Timer

 
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris Stockdale wrote: | For the bookshelf, 'cos it has this and many other useful pics, try:
Industrial Narrow Gauge stock and Trackwork, by Sidney Leleux.
From Plateway Press and only £8.95 as it is softback. Every industrial narrow gauger should have one
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I will look out for it... or even add it to my Christmas list. _________________ Justin C, by the sea. |
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satori 'boxer Old Timer

 
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Great stuff. I bet there aren't many of those around! Thanks for the link, but I don't think I'll try modelling it! _________________ Justin C, by the sea. |
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